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PostPosted: Thu Apr 30, 2015 11:15 pm 
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Hi all, does anyone know much about these?

Are they any good? Worth a purchase?

Iv noticed one down the street, it's a estate £450 notes with 11 months tax and test,
As my zr td is getting a little tired and in need of a major overhaul I'm debating making a purchace depending on nick, I did a little drive by tonight but was dark so need to go have a butchers in the morning.

I know it will not be a T series monster but just in the middle of getting my house done up and wouldn't go a miss having a wagon to do a bit of shipping about, any comments or knowlede would be very helpfully thanks in advance

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 Post subject: Re: 51 plate 75 BMW diesel engine to buy or not to buy?
PostPosted: Thu Apr 30, 2015 11:38 pm 
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I have one and at £450 its a bargain pending if theirs out wrong. Mine has a few faults but its still soldiering on and hasnt let me down yet.

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 Post subject: Re: 51 plate 75 BMW diesel engine to buy or not to buy?
PostPosted: Fri May 01, 2015 1:11 am 
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Forget the tax it won't go with it no more so you will have to tax it ;)


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 Post subject: Re: 51 plate 75 BMW diesel engine to buy or not to buy?
PostPosted: Fri May 01, 2015 7:02 am 
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i have had a 75 diesel for 4 years now and never missed a beat once.

The average price of the diesels is over £1200.

Under no circumstances consider it a fast car, its a milemuncher

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 Post subject: Re: 51 plate 75 BMW diesel engine to buy or not to buy?
PostPosted: Fri May 01, 2015 8:19 am 
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All great points will go and see what it's like and report back :thumbup:


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 Post subject: Re: 51 plate 75 BMW diesel engine to buy or not to buy?
PostPosted: Fri May 01, 2015 10:41 am 
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Clutch system can be problematic. Check it operates smoothly and with a reasonable biting point. Slave cylinder is within the bell housing so a PITA to do if it fails.

I have a facelift diesel ZT and its a great car (as well as the coupe turbo)
Handbrake compensator can stretch, thermostat can fail open and MAF failing will result in being sluggish, but are all easy fixes.
The 75 & ZT forum is a good resource of knowledge and experience.


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PostPosted: Fri May 01, 2015 11:09 am 
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Dont forget you will have to retax it straight away...


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 Post subject: Re: 51 plate 75 BMW diesel engine to buy or not to buy?
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Any diesel car for £450 that's not a complete basket case has to be a bargain...

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 Post subject: Re: 51 plate 75 BMW diesel engine to buy or not to buy?
PostPosted: Fri May 01, 2015 10:18 pm 
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Rite guys been for a look this morning, it's an old chap whis selling on behalf of his brother who's been taken Ill, he has had it since new so one owner from new, 100000thow on the clock, full service history and it's had a new clutch last year at a cost of 1000 notes, all in all it's good in a fashion, now for the not so good points all which can be put rite it just has quite a lot of battle scars unfortunately starting with both front and back bumpers scuffed and scratched as well as the tailgate rear quarter from wing and sill scuffed scraped and v poorly repainted as it stands it's 400 pound has grey cloth interior and the usual walnut dash, starts first time and sounds as good as a diesel gets although it's a lot quiter than my l series zr, think I'm going to have a punt on it tomorrow at that price considering the body work I suppose all can be put rite in ways of new bumpers possibly zt or v8 but think I'd be lucky to come across one, then theres the rest at a guess I'd say it needed a full respray to get back all fresh,

So thanks for the comments keep them coming if of any knowlege I'd be very great full :thumbup:


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PostPosted: Sat May 02, 2015 7:44 am 
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you want show quality for £450 come on fella

Bumpers are 30-50 if it gets on your nerves and bad paint on sills, waxoil it.

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PostPosted: Sat May 02, 2015 11:36 am 
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Lets face it there is no way your going to correct the bodywork.

Look at any 75/zt, they always have scuffs and marks on the bumpers.
Its because of the bulbous shape of them- seriously ever one has them.
If you leave it parked often in shitty car parks the scuffs will multiply.


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PostPosted: Sat May 02, 2015 2:15 pm 
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Rite chaps iv done the deal 400 pounds later I'm now the dare say it proud owner of a 75 tourer, it ain't all that pritty but it puts a smile on my face,

Anyone know much about the engines on these? Am I rite in thinking its from a BMW?

Is there anything I can do to unleash some extra ponies? Iv had my boot down in it earlier and would be good to know if theres anything I can do to increase the power? Anyone know what they put out powerwise? Think a mahosive induction kits on the cards to try get it groneing

What's your thoughts!? :drive:


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 Post subject: Re: 51 plate 75 BMW diesel engine to buy or not to buy?
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i think you're mad. its a work horse not a beast

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 Post subject: Re: 51 plate 75 BMW diesel engine to buy or not to buy?
PostPosted: Sat May 02, 2015 4:24 pm 
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Its a bmw engine, but with different hp pump/injectors and turbo (the part that gives it the real power)
Its 115bhp standard 135 in the zt+
Best off making sure its all ok standard then a cheap remap or roverron tuning box.
Should see somewhere near 160hp then (but the turbos are tiny)
Will pull 100mph quite easy with bags of low down power.
They are never particularly economical.


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 Post subject: Re: 51 plate 75 BMW diesel engine to buy or not to buy?
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(but the turbos are tiny)


This. As a tuner I don't feel comfortable quoting 160 bhp for these. The turbos are tiny compared to the L-series (which itself can only scrape 160), we're not talking a 'bit' smaller, we are talking much, much, smaller. What they lack in size, they make up in durability, they battle on (even with a bit too much boost, I've done a lot of dyno testing haha).

Knowing how inconsistent dynos can be, I think a realistic limit to these is closer to 150 than 160.

However, like the l-series, they can be tuned. Usual rules apply - service, decat, up the boost and remap, no need to worry about injectors or much else. Maf issues are as common as the l-series, but these can be replaced or mapped out too.

I have a 75 tourer myself now, I might have to get rid because i'm running out of room here but if I do i'll be doing it kicking and screaming. Fantastic mile munchers and even with 150bhp it'l feel reasonably quick. It'l never be like a tuned l-series but it won't be bad. Overtaking will still be comfortable.

Fantastic cars, brilliant interiors and they are very refined diesel engines for their age.

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 Post subject: Re: 51 plate 75 BMW diesel engine to buy or not to buy?
PostPosted: Sat May 02, 2015 8:51 pm 
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All super info guys that's a million I know it'll never be a beast but would like to try make it better in any way shape or form, seems to rev well in 1st 2nd 3rd then just seems to take an age getting it winded over in 4th then need a airoplane runway to get it to go all the way iver in 5th but lets face it its never going to see much iver a ton, seems to get to 90 fairly easy then sits quite comfatably there, fuek wise so far dosnt look great but will keep an eye in it dosnt help iv been trying to give it a blow out so to be expected having the fuel light on, I think there's a slight boost leak but can't see any smoke out the back just can hear the exhaust note change ounces foots fully planted and feels a bit sluggish, all in all it's a comfy ride very quiet compared to the zr and no rattles which can't be a bad thing, I'll get it booked in for a full service and check over, once it's done and been given the all clear I'll do some hunting for a decay and filter.

Dakta strange you have one of these machines too! I'm sure you have worked your magic on yours, would you be willing to do a renal on this once the above is done?

I'll be getting the l series back out to play in the winter some would be great if you could refine that at a later time too.

Thanks again folks top bit of information :thumbup:


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 Post subject: Re: 51 plate 75 BMW diesel engine to buy or not to buy?
PostPosted: Sat May 02, 2015 9:46 pm 
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Yeah course we can, can even have a session at a dyno I use if you ever fancy.

My main aim with the above post is to keep yours (and others) expectations realistic. Of course they can be tuned, they can be tuned up quite well even. We just can't break the laws of physics (or in this care the flow capability of a small compressor and turbine combination).

All said though, they are brilliant cars. Very comfortable places to be especially if you do a lot of miles.

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 Post subject: Re: 51 plate 75 BMW diesel engine to buy or not to buy?
PostPosted: Sun May 03, 2015 9:41 am 
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That's great Chris I'll be intouch very soon :thumbup:


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