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I forgot to mention, I spoke with Drew about the Hardrace LCA's he fitted and if he had the same problem. Hardrace offer the middle bush in two sizes 50mm or 40mm in which he ordered the smaller size.

If Skunk2 did the same, these LCA's would be for a more wider range of vehicles other than civic's!

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I've received mine today. And looking at it I think making the forks wider is a better option. As keeping the bush the correct size is a better job and will last a lot longer etc.

I've got some spare shocks. Plan is to simply bend the forks out. Slide a metal box section in the correct width and bend them back around it.

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will these not give the same issues or have moto-build done something different?


MB ones seem to be a different design.


http://www.moto-build.com/
What makes these different and anyone used these before? could help resolve the skunk2 ones


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The moto-build arms below are a little different to the image above

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I've received mine today. And looking at it I think making the forks wider is a better option. As keeping the bush the correct size is a better job and will last a lot longer etc.

I've got some spare shocks. Plan is to simply bend the forks out. Slide a metal box section in the correct width and bend them back around it.



Just remember that in doing this you'll lower the car at the back a little (~5mm) as the shock body will effectively be shorter when "adjusted" to fit.

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has anyone tried replacing the lower shock fork with a Civic one yet? that would have cutting or bending anything wouldn't it? :?


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I've received mine today. And looking at it I think making the forks wider is a better option. As keeping the bush the correct size is a better job and will last a lot longer etc.

I've got some spare shocks. Plan is to simply bend the forks out. Slide a metal box section in the correct width and bend them back around it.



Just remember that in doing this you'll lower the car at the back a little (~5mm) as the shock body will effectively be shorter when "adjusted" to fit.


Correct but is a bonus I guess as I wouldn't mind it a touch lower :)

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VVC MINI wrote:
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I've received mine today. And looking at it I think making the forks wider is a better option. As keeping the bush the correct size is a better job and will last a lot longer etc.

I've got some spare shocks. Plan is to simply bend the forks out. Slide a metal box section in the correct width and bend them back around it.



Just remember that in doing this you'll lower the car at the back a little (~5mm) as the shock body will effectively be shorter when "adjusted" to fit.


Correct but is a bonus I guess as I wouldn't mind it a touch lower :)


still wont cure the problem of having a in correct size crush tube . so it will effectively be lose fitting in the bush.

and thats fine if ur doing it to old shocks. if any one has new konis or coil-overs ur void the warranty.

also means if you change suspension ur had to do the same mod to every shock .

im still in favour of swapping out he bush for the superflex one

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Just swap the crush tube for a better fitting one or bush it to fit?

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Ye just put a bigger bolt in.

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I used Superflex tubes with the Skunk bushes

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ill be up at andys work shop on the 8th hopefully with rob and james to see if a permanent solution can be made.


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I have arms not that dissimilar to the moto-build ones and had to trim the shock mounting bush down to size. That was easier than these arms because the crush tube was wide enough to be trimmed to size without affecting the bush itself. I'm pretty sure I changed the bolt too and all was fine.


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Wow what have I missed since I got mine! As you can guess I have not even got around to fitting mine. Interesting reading for sure and not really an issue is it chaps.

Seeing that I have not stripped mine yet can anyone tell me what size the boss is across on the standard arm position?

When the Skunk bushes were removed, in two halves were they?, did they fit face to face or was there a gap? i.e. when pressed in to the head of the bush did it go exactly halfway so both bushes kissed in the middle? If there is a gap good, just reduce the boss and drop the bushes in by half each side. If no gap then reduce the smaller diameter end of the bush and the tube.

Personally I would be looking to achieve the same fit for the fork, same thickness of the headed bush and reduce the boss width so you have full compliance of the head of the bush so as to retain the lateral clearance. I would not be happy with skimming the head of the bush down as this will end up shearing in no time.

Seeing as my zed is being sorned this week I may be taking my arms off sooner that expected in order to see what's the best way forward. I won't be butchering mine, it has to be right as it is no fuds car! :wink:

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I'll know on the 8th and will have a workable permanent solution by then and will offer the modding service at cost to any body that wants it. Assuming its doable etc

hoping meeting up with ttrw2 then. he has got to rearrange work stuff.

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http://cms.skunk2.com/id/707/Fake-LCA-Alert/

Not confirmed yet but check this out looks like bad news


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ffs more controversy, tbh fake or otherwise, i got them because they look better than the originals so weight and performance won't really bother me (i drive like daisy) but i know the track lads are going to be calling for answers....again.

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I noticed this a few weeks ago but didnt want to kick up anymore problems. Nice one Rich!

There are BIG debates all over the net on FAKE vs real SKUNK2 LCA's. I believe Skunk2's new design use 5 groove bushes improving quality however the previous design bushes was the 8 groove design.

Due to the simple design of these, there will be fakes around but proove the difference.....

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Sorry to hear about that lads, really glad I was skint at the time now and that would also explain the cheap price. Rob didn't you deal with skunk2 direct?
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Does it matter?

They are machined from Billet Alloy, you don't get to see a certificate of conformity from Skunk for the Alloy anyway, nor do you for the rubber / poly bushings.

We all have used pattern parts for our cars that are non OEM Rover, so i don't see this being big issue is it?

The ones I have look and feel good quality TBH.

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I am confident they are originals but i hate to see issues with almost every group buy, it may stop people considering doing them in the future.

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They're supposed to be 2024T6 alloy, and I agree you don't get a CoC from Skunk2, short of having one tested to check the alloy spec there is no way around the problem

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So these fake or real ?

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So these fake or real ?


It will be very hard to prove these are fake.

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Yep, they're fakes lads.

I made them in my garage myself from smelted-down Rover 420 GSi Turbos and 800 Tickfords that I've been collecting over the years.

Seriously. Those who have a pair in their hands - what do you think?

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what do you think?


I think you will never do a group buy again :(

Mine seem spot on quality wise.

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I made them in my garage myself from smelted-down Rover 420 GSi Turbos and 800 Tickfords that I've been collecting over the years.



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I'm wasn't saying their fakes sorry to of caused more problems with these I have been trying to sell mine on as cant be bothered with modding them so have them on a Honda site an am getting abuse saying their fakes when I very much doubt they are just the info on the web suggests they are


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Right bit of good news this is from the skunk site to prove they are not fake
Skunk2.com[6] Jul 8th, 2011 @ 2:14 PM
Chuck, our original bushing design incorporated eight grooves so you've likely just got our older bushings. Should you ever need to upgrade or replace them, our new bushings will fit perfectly.


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I have given mine a good look over and they look good quality tbh. No sign of anything to tell me they are sub-standard. No machining glitches or any signs of porosity through the whole part. If it was crap alloy then there would be signs as such. The bushes look genuine and could well be an older batch if the information from the manufacturer is followed, so the deal could well have been for some old stock?

If they are proven to be a copy then we can only live with it and move on, no point in this becoming a witchhunt as the whole order was done in good faith.

I'm off to melt mine down and make a few TAG watches ;)

As for poor quality and worrying about them braking then what about some of the front top arms we have seen, I say they are alot worse!

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